The City of Troy, New York, "Where Henry Hudson Turned Around."

Tuesday, August 02, 2016

BETTER LATE THAN NEVER

Here's one from the 'better late than never' files. According to The Record, Jack Cox, owner of Jack's Auto Sales on River Street, was fined $81,000 by City Court Judge Chris Maier. The reason? Keeping a junked car on the property. We know, we never would have guessed.

Cox has to pay $1,000 a day for each day a vehicle was illegally stored on the property. This is just one battle in a very long war waged by the City of Troy and Cox for years. The City has, almost always, been in the right. When the Troy Polloi sides with Bob Mirch, the stars have aligned.

Of course, Cox will appeal. Such an appeal should go to one of the County Court Judges. Why they would reverse is beyond us. The pickup truck could not be reached for comment.

We don't care if Cox doesn't want to play by the rules like everyone else. He should just be ready to pay for breaking those rules.

In other news, Troy Police are investigating the alleged murder of an unarmed woodchuck at the Frear Park golf course during a golf tournament. According to witnesses, a manned golf cart pursued and murdered a woodchuck. Police are investigating allegations that the murder was committed by two off-duty City of Rensselaer police officers.

It is not known if alcohol was involved. A motive has not yet been determined but jealousy has not been ruled out. The woodchuck's identity has not been released pending notification of next of kin.

If the allegations are true, it is more than disturbing that two grown men, sworn to uphold the law, would intentional injure, let alone kill, an animal. If the allegations are proven, the officers should be dismissed from employment and prosecuted.

Both stories come courtesy of Mark Robarge at The Record.

By the way, what happened to Franco and Friends and the Talk 1300 Report? If you know, leave a comment.

182 comments:

Anonymous said...

If that was your attempt at being funny you bombed. Bring back Democratus. I've been forced to get my laughs at McCassholes #handsupdontshoot woodchuck site.

Anonymous said...

No good Jack leg fucking code nazi's. We Cox are vary good hard working.

Anonymous said...

You find McTaxless funny? What are you, seven years old?

Phana24JG said...

I am hoping that prior to leveling this rather Draconian fine someone tried to reason with Jack. I understand that is generally an exercise in futility, but I hate to see any private businessman hammered to this extent.

I can't imagine the mentality of people who enjoy killing or torturing harmless animals.

Phana24JG said...

1.41, you may not like McCashion, but ya gotta give the guy credit for a unique sense of humor. Hell, he kills the TU on covering Troy stories.

Yeah, occasionally he pulls the trigger too early, but he is far more effective with people aware of social media. I'm guessing his metrics would surprise most.

Anonymous said...

Come on now!!!!!!! That picture of the woodchuck with his hands up is fucking funny. #Woodchuckslivesmatter.

Anonymous said...

Ken Cozy of the TU, could'nt carry Tim O Briens pencil when it comes to covering Troy.

Anonymous said...

You must have been the butt of one of his jokes. I agree the pic with the hands up was funny!!

Anonymous said...

Still looking for the selfie king, where are you?

Anonymous said...

Who's the selfie king?

Anonymous said...

Fucking Nazi code assholes try to destroy hard working mens busniss.Families pays lots of taxes and hard work to make money and these jack leg drug sniffirs in city halls bust the balls of hard workers not on welfare and own good property and pay taxes. Not over

Phana24JG said...

Geez 9.08, if you post anonymously, you have to at least make an effort to change your rhetoric.

Anonymous said...

Did Carmella get a selfie with the Frear Park woodchuck?

Anonymous said...

That's not a selfie if someone else is in the pic

Anonymous said...

He knows who he is...only grown ass man that takes selfies.

Anonymous said...

So what did happen to Franco?

Anonymous said...

Looked like a woodchuck and a beaver in the Post online. Thought Animal Kingdom got revived. Marlin Perkins

Anonymous said...

Great news about the FD grant. HEROES!

Anonymous said...

Just wasn't cutting it. No back story here

Anonymous said...

A dead woodchuck doesn't count as someone else.
-Carmella

Anonymous said...

Hey, 9:28 PM!

Where you been, summering in the Hamptons? There are hundreds (thousands?) of people who look forward to your unrelated-to-the-topic negative and snide comments about the Troy Fire Department.

Said no person. Ever.

Anonymous said...

How about the city wanting every unionized employee in the city take a contract with 5 years of 0's while certain city hall employees are getting big raises.

Anonymous said...

@4:12 pm: you must be talking about exempt/appointed city hall employees. Most workers in city hall ARE union members

Anonymous said...

That's reality. The city has less than no money and the raises go to political cronies. Be thankful you're already overpaid and under worked and have a job. You could have to survive in the public sector.

Anonymous said...

I agree. Too bad we have a very self serving union.Why do we pay dues- for a picnic every year? But, I understand that we were bled dry over the past 5 years, but they seem to find money for everything else.

Anonymous said...

Guess it depends who in the city you consider is overpaid and under worked. Maybe the people in their air conditioned office playing Pokemon go. Not the garbage men, fireman and cops who are over work and under paid.

Anonymous said...

I say Go Big or Go home.

Anonymous said...

What we need in city hall is new union leadership. Paul is to cozy with the bosses.

Anonymous said...

Whatever manupella

Anonymous said...

Union official gets a $6000 raise and she tells all employees there's no money. But they represent the workers?

Anonymous said...

9:46 you can't be serious! The garbage crews work at whatever pace they want. Once they're done with their route, they are done, whether they work 8 hours r not. Driving to the dump isn't considered work. The police only answer assigned calls during their 8 hour shift. Mostly domestic disputes. Nothing extra. Have you seen the way people drive in Troy? There's no fear of a ticket. The fireman spend most of their shift going to the market, reading the papers or on their cell phones. Unless someone calls in with chest pains and then 6 guys go for a ride around the block.

Anonymous said...

"Go big or go home"..isn't that a sales pitch over at Wendy's? Seriously peeps..this is all Troys people can come up with.Fyi.......the wndys on route 9 will give you a free soft drink refill if you work at the watervliet arsenal so the sales pitch isn't all bad.

Anonymous said...

I'm guessing you are gainfully unemployed and have no clue what a real work day looks like.

Anonymous said...

First post in several days. Must be some good stuff on the editors floor.

Anonymous said...

This blog literally has some deadass rude comments..like if ya dont like Troy than take yourselves somewhere.

Anonymous said...

You miss him? Your obsession with men is creepy and kind of gay, but you make creepy/gay work. All you do is read this blog and comment how bad it is and sit and pray that the selfie king comments so you can interact with him on some level. You certainly are a sad, lonely person.

Anonymous said...

I think this blog is finished. Too bad. Had potential.

Phana24JG said...

Afraid you are right. Hope you are wrong.

Anonymous said...

Like people on here make fun of our city and we got our issues but too bad shove it if ya don't like troy go somewhere. We rule u drool.

Anonymous said...

Allowed too many personal attacks and too much name calling. Called a "time out", but that lasted about nine minutes.
Agree that it had potential. Agree that it's too bad.

Anonymous said...

Fuck you crawley!

Anonymous said...

We got potential for sure.Troy is the best.Haters gonna hat.

Anonymous said...

Great job by Joel and his staff. 2 shitbird off the streets for many years. Thank you Joel.

Anonymous said...

I agree. This is a big win for Joel. Happy for the family.

Phana24JG said...

Obviously, Joel gets his share of the credit, but Botts is the big winner here.

Anonymous said...

Joel dumped this case on Botts because Joel knows his own incompetence would assure an acquittal. Congrats to Botts.

Anonymous said...

Your right Phana. But if they lost all would be calling for Joel head on a silver plater. I would like to know why Bott was with Ahearn and the Heimroth family at the bar last week. Also who was the court officer that was with them?

Anonymous said...

Please. A five year old could've gotten that conviction.

Anonymous said...

Gary Gordom ratted everyone out.

Anonymous said...

Really? Both were guilty of murder 1. The worst got a deal from the DA and pled guilty to Manslaughter, and the jury aquitted of Murder 1 despite the testimony of the accomplice. Just like the Vega case, no "big winner" here, just more spin....

Phana24JG said...

3.53,yeah,that sounded like a recipe for disaster. The issue of "credit" is very simple. You win, everyone gets credit; if you lose, everyone takes an arrow.

Phana24JG said...

8.22,you have a point,but given the situation, after the failure of the first case, and an important prosecution witness recanting previous testimony, it's clearly a public win for the DA's office. Even if you are right, and it was their case to lose, I submit the public perception is very different.

Anonymous said...

You go Joel. Next he will send that baby killer to jail.

Anonymous said...

The main culprits always seem to get the cooperation agreement

Anonymous said...

Why can't a minority yute, go through the same process as everyone else to join the TFD? MORE REVERSE RACISM. Tired of our alleged city leaders kissing ass to look good. Is there a test involved?

Anonymous said...

a five year old could get a conviction, says the guy with the law degree from Google. as a lawyer, I can tell you that case was extremely difficult to prove beyond a reasonable doubt, but Andrew Botts did another hell of a job, as he has done at least twice in the recent past. if he lost, I would not have been surprised at all, but he pulled this one out, and good for the family. the only credit Joel should get is actually keeping Mr. Botts on his staff. and who the F cares if the DA and defense attorney had lunch together? this happens ALL THE TIME! we are legal adversaries, but we can manage to do our jobs while keeping good relationships with the other members of the bar. Its called being a mature adult, some commenters on this forum should try it once in a while.

Anonymous said...

The Detectives made this case,And gets no credit as usual.

Phana24JG said...

Well said, 2.56. Obviously, at least one member of the media had Heimroth not guilty. I have little knowledge of legal minutiae, hence rely on the verdict like most. Since Ahearn was formerly in the DA's office, it's hardly surprising the DA and he would have an occasional lunch, and if a good relationship facilitates a good bargain down the road, we all win.

Anonymous said...

Take it easy Perry Mason. He can have lunch with Ahearn all he wants but why the fuck would he have a drink with the Heimroth family. I'm happy with the convictions. I'm happy for the family. However he should not have been with that family.

Anonymous said...

2:56 - if you have a law degree, you clearly no nothing about trying murder cases, which puts on on the same level as most of the DA staff in Rensselaer. Botts is doing a fine job for an inexperienced ADA, but he only managed a manslaughter conviction in the Vega case, and there was no way any reasonable person could believe that Vega meant to injure rather than kill when he strangled the victim and then set her on fire. When you give the main culprit a plea deal in exchange for his testimony and then only get a manslaugter conviction, it is also not a great victory. Hopefully Botts will get better, because while he doesn't really have enough experience to be trying homicides, he is the best Abelove has left. However, if this considered a great victory, it is time for some serious changes. Still a long time to the next election, but Abelove may soon face serious consequences for immunizing a GJ target.....
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Anonymous said...

Spoken like the selfie king himself!
BTW never commented ever on how bad this blog is, actually I enjoy it very much. And another thing Einstein I'm not a man so gay I'm not!!

Anonymous said...

But you got a paycheck--correct?

Anonymous said...

Bill dunne. Your blog is dead. Pull the plug and write one about mayor scheivr

Anonymous said...

Zeros for Heros! 5 years and counting!

Anonymous said...

Keep supporting the current ruling party fella's. Hows that been working out for you?
How about that 1MSQ pony show. Another hole in the ground, and they keep blaming it on the last guy that actually showed you some respect. Let's keep that hole there I say. Gives you a great view of the river

Anonymous said...

Davis homicide case resulted in acquittal today. ADA failed to call medical witnesses from Albany Medical and gave a 3 minute summation. Joel just hired her in April - let's see how they spin this one......

Anonymous said...

Madden is clueless and Monica is an idiot.

Anonymous said...

Just can't get over it, can you?

Anonymous said...

It's not a paycheck it's an insult

Anonymous said...

Selfie king still at!

Anonymous said...

Get over what?

Anonymous said...

DPW is looking for laborers

Anonymous said...

It's a career, not an adventure

Anonymous said...

Stanley pleads guilty in arson/ homicide case, Abelove announces another victory. Elsewhere in NY this is known as felony murder, but in Rensselaer manslaughter will have to do......

Anonymous said...

Why no story about what going on over at the court house with Ron Fountain and Gary Gordon?

Anonymous said...

Who is Stanley??

Anonymous said...

David C. Stanelet was indicted for Murder 1 for the killing of Grace Hogan. Crime occurred May 1, 2015 at 520 2nd Ave in Troy.

Anonymous said...

Another Trojan Circus coming to town soon

Anonymous said...

Heard that there was a little Gordon on Gordon today at the grand jury.

Anonymous said...

Can people in Troy literally ever just have some class. Seriously.

Anonymous said...

Hi- I'm Jim Gordon, and I want to be your Mayor.
Hi-- I'm Jim Gordon- I lost and disappeared.

Anonymous said...

Hi, I'm Rodney Whiltshire, and I want to be your Mayor.
Hi, I'm Rodney Whiltshire, I lost, and I'm still stuck on 1 employee. #RestoreTroy

Anonymous said...

TPD is not a career, it's a death sentence. Get out and leave for greener pastures before its to late. That place is beyond repair.

Anonymous said...

No charges here, move along.

Anonymous said...

If people can't see this is a political witch hunt they are as obnoxious as Abelove.

Anonymous said...

There talking about Gary Gordon not Jim so be gone with your obsession.

Anonymous said...

They Got Gary on Tape again...never learns does he??

Anonymous said...

Hi I'm Jim Gordon and I'm going to get PAID. thank you crooked Troy police.

Anonymous said...

Gary will be joining his boy Rogers!!

Anonymous said...

This shit is so juvenile it's pathetic. Grown men, who were sworn to uphold the law, violate people's privacy over politics. Jim's a weasel, but still a taxpayer, and should have been afforded the same protections as anyone else. If true, they should all get some jailtime.

Anonymous said...

There talking be cuz that's Troy for ya gossip, do nothing but talk smak.

Anonymous said...

Well, we can talk about your use of the English language. But,
on another note people wouldn't be talking if crimes we not committed especially by people that are suppose to protect and serve.

Anonymous said...

Can you explain why Jim Gordon would be paid for anything? How was he injured. His wife made the call. Her privacy was invaded, not his. Even if that was the case, the right to privacy is very limited in New York State and this does not fall within the statute.

What crime did Gary Gordon commit? You keep saying he's going to jail but don't identify any crime. I was never of fan of Gordon. He's a hack, but please explain what he did and why it's a crime?

Anonymous said...

Carry on my wayward son

Anonymous said...

Possession of stolen evidence

Anonymous said...

Seriously I literally can see why our city is whack.

Anonymous said...

That's not in the penal law. Even if it was, will they arrest Lyons, because he was in possession of it as well?

Try again.

Anonymous said...

He's probably doesn't know there is an actual book with criminal statutes. They just make shit up like possession of stolen evidence or Gordon will get money because of privacy. Uneducated Troy natives.

Anonymous said...

Your right. No charges here. Move along.

Anonymous said...

When this is over, the only Gordon that gets a big pay day is Gary Gordon

Anonymous said...

Is directing a grand jury to indict a non crime considered prosecutorial misconduct?

Anonymous said...

Joel's vendetta will come back to bite him in the butt this time

Anonymous said...

How about possession of stolen property??

Anonymous said...

Evidence tampering sure is a crime!!

Anonymous said...

What is the penal law definition of stolen property

Anonymous said...

Evidence tampering? Evidence of what?

Anonymous said...

Ok Joel we get it. You don't like Gary Gordon

Anonymous said...

How about possession of hydrocodone

Anonymous said...

Probably not "stolen property" or "evidence tampering" because the original recording remained intact. However, the unlawful release of information, depending on the circumstances - constitutes the crime of "Official Misconduct".

Anonymous said...

Official misconduct. Hmmmmm. Therein lies the problem for Joel. Figure it out.

Anonymous said...

Assuming the GOP boner-inducing rumors are true, Gordon can't be charged with official misconduct. He did not abuse his official position in obtaining the recording. An officer could be charged but not Gordon. It is also not tampering with evidence because it wasn't tampered with. It is not possession of stolen property because the owner was not deprived of any propert. There is also no inherent monetary value to the recording. Again, if it is stolen property, why not charge Lyons. The 1st Amendment does not shield reporters from crimes.

Anonymous said...

Not quite true. Even though Gordon was not a government official, if he solicited or encouraged a government official to release the tapes he can be charged as an accomplice. If on the other hand, if he or Lyons were passive beneficiaries, neither can ( or at least should not) be charged. Personally, leaving aside the politics, fine with charging anyone who abused their government position to release private information. However, if deals were made to allow either one or more law enforcement officials to remain on the job in order to target political opponents - as a taxpayer I will be outraged. That would be the DA abusing his authority.....

Anonymous said...

Which brings us back to the previous question. Can Abelove be charged with prosecutorial misconduct if he directs the grand jury to indict a non crime? Come on Joel, chime in on this one. This is the least of your problems though.

Anonymous said...

Yes-- Gary knew nuttin. Are you f-in serious?

Anonymous said...

Yes, but the solicitation statute that is applicable is a violation and not a crime. Also, the applicable public misconduct statute is a misdemeanor so no Grand Jury would be necessary. Whatever Abelove concocts, it looks like this act, if it did occur, falls between the cracks. If Gordon did facilitate the reproduction of the recording, I wonder if he could be fired from his Board of Election job. Now, if I were a cop that made the recording, there are a number of statutes that could be applicable.

Abelove may want to concentrate on hiring and keeping ADA's that can prosecute serious crimes. His own hires jump ship quickly.

Anonymous said...

If acting in concert, a person charged with Official Misconduct would face an A misdemeanor. While this would not require the use of a Grand Jury, the law allows the presentation of misdemeanor cases and a Grand Jury can vote such charges. Possible advantages include using GJ subpoenas to obtain evidence and compel testimony. This is just a guess, as not sure what Abelove may be doing - should be interesting.
BTW, "Prosecutorial misconduct" is not a crime, although it would not be surprising if we see claims of unethical conduct.

Anonymous said...

BOE seems to be a safe haven for very unethical people-- no need to fire him

Anonymous said...

You're right. Prosecutorial misconduct is not a crime but the appellate division has tossed lawyers out who have committed it.

Anonymous said...

True, and if there is something to add to the existing issue where Abelove immunized the target of a Grand Jury investigation there could be a problem - but at this point just speculation. Those who leaked the 911 call should be the ones really worried at this point.

Anonymous said...

Ummm. I don't get it. Are you saying the cop getting immunity isn't a problem? Joel has to do another corrupt act for somebody to take notice? Really? If so, you have no credibility and should refrain from commenting here

Anonymous said...

I don't think anybody is really worried at this point. Joel keeps tripping over his own feet!

Anonymous said...

8:38 You "don't get it" because you are missing the point. Abelove's grant of immunity to Sgt. French is already established, but whether there is anything new and improper on the Gordon case Is just speculation at this point.

Anonymous said...

Lets see if Gary finally gets what's coming to him, he seems to get other people to do his dirty work and then sits back and acts like he doesn't even know them. Hes been pulling this unethical behavior for some time. Theres a reason why he was "forced" to retire from TPD.

Anonymous said...

Reading these juvenile comments, you would think Joel had something to do with the tape theft. Nice try at reflecting the blame

Anonymous said...

I don't think Gary was forced to retire.

Anonymous said...

What exactly did Gary Gordon do? I know there are rumors but does anyone hear have one shred of evidence that he was involved other than rumors. I'm not saying he is not involved. I'm saying I don't know and neither do any of you.

The people in Troy that peddle rumors are the first to be indignant when one of their own is the subject of a rumor. Pathetic.

So if you can establish Gordon did something, please step forward. If not, perhaps you should wait. Maybe Tutunjian or Crawley were involved in it as well. The people here have as much evidence against them as they do against Gordon.

Anonymous said...

Oh, so now it's Harry's fault?? WTF are you on?
It rained in Troy today, just as my family sat down to eat on the patio-- damn you Harry.
The Facebook satellite blew up on takeoff, and I have proof Harry & Dan were behind it.

Anonymous said...

Idiot. He's being sarcastic. Of course Tut and Crawley wouldn't be involved. He's talking about how rumors become fact. Can't you read sarcasm?

Anonymous said...

Well he did something or there wouldn't be a grand jury hearing!

Anonymous said...

maybe not forced "persuaded" sound better.

Anonymous said...

Unless the TU was totally off(see 9/2 article), there was a Grand Jury presentation, and the DA gave immunity to Colaneri with Gordon as the main target. However, even though Gordon was ready to surrender as he expected an indictment, that Grand Jury term has ended with no charges filed, So either they got a court order to extend the Grand Jury because they expect more evidence, or Abelove failed to indict the proverbial "ham sandwich".....

Anonymous said...

@ 1:07, i did hear uncle fester blew it.

Anonymous said...

Are you'll kidding. straight up obsessed, start working on Troy and stop cussing over every little penal law.

Anonymous said...

I see the good ol' boys at the hero hut down at 6th and Federal got the warning from the 9-0 vote by the city council the other night about adopting the financial recommendations from the Audit they had done. While they all quivered in their Lazy Boys about losing the ambulance and the overtime they call their union president at his home in East Greenbush and told him not to go to his second job and get his ass down to city hall and take what ever they will give us. Can't wait to see what's in this contract. I bet it has some kind of guarantee not to touch the ambulances. TIME TO CUT THEIR OVERTIME BY 25%. Now you boys can start all your bullshit about how baby's will die and old people will be dead on corners if you non resident city employees lose a dime. Oh also we all know that 12 of you live in Troy so stop that BS also.

Anonymous said...

Why does everyone that comes in contact with Gary end up in trouble?? The list is getting longer.

Anonymous said...

Like all you do is talk trash. A little ridic.
Have you ever tried being classy. Like just a little.

Anonymous said...

Wow I guess the boys at the Hero Hut agree.

Anonymous said...

To Every hose rolling hero out there: When this contract goes to a vote, just say no! A $3000 step increase over the course of 4 years is a joke especially since guys with 8 years and up are the only ones to benefit. No retro, it's like taking 4 0's. The city is trying to pull the wool over its employees eyes. It's time to wake up and realize Madden and Monica do not give a crap about its employees. Razzano should be ashamed of himself for even thinking this is a good deal.

Anonymous said...

Satire? Who's the idiot savant in this conversation?

Anonymous said...

Gary causes his own problems.As much as I like him, he should steer clear of this political bullshit. Not a stupid guy, but like many political wannabe's, not much common sense.

Anonymous said...

Ok. So we've established you didn't score well enough on the FD exam to get hired and now you're upset and need to do something.

Anonymous said...

Tom Garrett for president !!!

Anonymous said...

He makes more money here

Anonymous said...

City found 5k so Carmzilla could throw a party-- but no money for us

Anonymous said...

Nice that you're up at 5:13AM for work on a Saturday and already obsessing about the Troy Fire Department.

And when I say nice, I mean sad.

You might be better off spending your time trying to better yourself by learning why it's "babies", not "baby's".


Anonymous said...

People of Troy have to be up at 5am for work on a Saturday morning to pay for everyone at the hero hut on 6th ave. Time to end your minimum staffing and overtime. We can't afford you lazy boy legends anymore.

Anonymous said...

If you look at the proposed contract between The City and the UFA, you'll see that the people whose opinions on minimum manning and overtime matter disagree with you. So you need to contact City Hall and/or speak at a Council meeting to try and convince them that you are right and they are wrong.

Or, you can continue to anonymously post half-truths, outright lies, and obsessive rants about the Troy Fire Department which probably help you self-medicate on some level in the short term, but is probably not in your best interest in the long term.

Forever is a long time to hold a grudge. Don't be afraid to talk to a professional to work it out. I think you'll like the change of pace of your first thought of the day being something that makes you happy instead of the building on 6th Avenue.

Best of luck whatever you decide.

Anonymous said...

You should have just told him to stop being a babie.

Anonymous said...

10:47 written from your Clifton Park home or is it Averill Park? I remember calling you out before and you went right to the Internet and looked for a story about a family that lost it all in a fire. Then you spun the story around to try and fear monger the readers. Well down at the Hero hut in your legends lazy boy please look up the story about Oswego Mayor laying off 20 heroes. I feel sorry for the 4 who think they have a job starting next week. They will be the first to go. Your department is single handedly responsible for the financial ruins the city is in as well as the blight that is taking over this once great city. As people now continue to leave Troy because of the taxes remember one thing. The firemen were the first to get the money and run. Best of luck.

Anonymous said...

So you've chosen to continue with the obsessive rants.

Pity.

Anonymous said...

Yes as well as continuing to pay my outrageous tax burden on my home as a result of the stifling overtime grab this department is forcing down out throat. Please tell me and my obsession why a fire chief gets overtime pay? Please tell me why the city of Schenectady has so fewer fire house and men than Troy with a larger city and population? Please tell me and my obsession why Albany has no ambulance service? does Albany and Schenectady have their own navy? This money grab has to end.

Anonymous said...

The Chief gets overtime? Who's the freakin idiot who OK'd that little plum? This shit has to end. What fucking planet are these people from?

Phana24JG said...

Clearly the contracts "negotiated" in the past are devastating. The minimum staffing and mandatory OT are killing the city. Some of this goes back 25 years, but I am still waiting for the arbitration result on that 10 yr service equals lifetime medical for the TPD. I've heard more from Fitzy on that than any of the alleged representatives of the taxpayers.

Anonymous said...

It's because we have to run into
Burning building so you don't have to!
Don't we deserve a little overtime? Besides we are missing our other side jobs when we are on overtime at the FD so we should be compensated enough to make it worth while

Anonymous said...

I see the lazy boy legends are working the phone lines to sound off this week. This new contract call for a no layoff clause. What the fuck are we the Yankees? How about a no trade clause? This shit has got to end. The overtime in Troy for public safety is kill us all. This and only this is how we are going to get out of debt before our grand children own property.

Anonymous said...

This page has hit a lull!! Same as the Troy Page, Boring!!!!

Anonymous said...

Will whoever has the keys to this blog please kick everybody out and tell them to go home ...it's 5 AM and these idiots Are pathetic...go home and check out the porn sites boys...it ain't happenin' here ....nuts...as for me...well I'm good for another but better shut me off...besides...the beer and conversation is flat (has been for about 100 comments at best) good night.

Anonymous said...

Thank you for finally stating the truth. The contracts were negotiated between the UFA and the City. The council and mayor agreed with all of the past contracts. To put all the blame on the UFA is short sided and just false

Anonymous said...

I am out of here. this is literally the most hatin blog. No wonder people stay off of it. On that note, time for a cold one and a burger.

Anonymous said...

No layoffs. You out of your fucking minds?

Anonymous said...

Some of us have to get up at 5 AM to pay for all of the rubber gloves the ambulance crews use on all of the bullshit calls that they go on. I guess they don't know how to wash their hands.

Anonymous said...

Those of us who live here, who work in the private sector, are stocking up on the KY in anticipation of getting tax-raped again this year. City is gonna kill us, Library this Tuesday, & the County will hit us with their obligatory 1-2% increase. Many of us are trying to plan our exit strategies, but can't sell our houses for a decent price. They keep promoting, hiring, and spending at both the county & city. Tax breaks being given to former employers to build hotels, County Leg workers being paid tax dollars to run campaigns, Fire Chiefs getting OT, 5k to have a fucking Birthday party, etc. etc. it's just fucking nuts. Its got to stop, and stop quick! John Q. Public is a sponge that cannot soak up anymore govt. waste. Another 90k about to be added to the city nut for a OGS-Commissioner btw. Horse-shit-- We're screwed

Anonymous said...

You really are delusional. You need psychiatric help. Perhaps you should call the TFD ambulance and have them take you up to Samaritan.

Anonymous said...

If they put breathing lights on every building in Troy, we would illuminate brighter than the sun.

Anonymous said...

Is the council going to pass the proposed FD contract?

Anonymous said...

Nothing story about either the Gordon indictments or the motion to vacate the Heimroth murder conviction or the Gordon indictments? Have we have moved from late to never?

Anonymous said...

28% tax increase and the heros down at the hero hut on 6th avenue will be rattling their tin cans at the city council on Tuesday night. Everyone of them need to have a pay cut. None live in the city of Troy. They and they alone are killing this city. Time to cut their nuts off. This has to end.

Anonymous said...

I'm a fireman. I live in the city. My meager, honestly earned salary is not "alone killing the city".

Anonymous said...

Who was the last firemen to quite? Exactly.

Anonymous said...

The mayor was elected to find solutions/cuts to reduce expenses. We all new they were playing a shell game to this point.

Anonymous said...

Lots of nasty exchanges here but no real facts. Troy is in definite need of effective response to fires. Do Troy firemen ( firepersons?) get paid much more than in surrounding municipalities?

Anonymous said...

Nice of Troy to give Harry property on 5th Ave. now we are all giving him new sidewalks as a house warming gift. Funny no one else on that block or across the streets are getting new sidewalks.

Anonymous said...

I got to laugh at this deadass nasty comment!!! like who are to to tell someone they need psychological help?

Anonymous said...

You don't live in the city.
None of you live in the city.
Because the cowardly lyin' guy says so.

Anonymous said...

its been along time since the harry obsession has posted!! Go away!!

Anonymous said...

You could'nt possibly be this stupid. CDBG target block moron

Anonymous said...

Troy Fd is the lowest paid in the immediate area. TFD is one of the busiest and offers the most services.

Anonymous said...

What's a block moron? And why are they being targeted?

Anonymous said...

Maybe he's paying for it himself dipshit. Obsession is a disease

Phana24JG said...

Actually, across the street is also getting sidewalks, although the cutoff does look rather arbitrary.

Anonymous said...

Marty pays back the money and still gets wrung through the ringer--and rightfully so. Meanwhile Guluski sits at the BOE, still drawing a paycheck untouched by the law. What's up with that?

Anonymous said...

7:51pm Reading all of this... NO class here. But like to see how my tax money is paid out to this group on here. It's like a big bunch of high school losers.