The City of Troy, New York, "Where Henry Hudson Turned Around."

Wednesday, February 03, 2016

DOUBLE DIPPING

Every now and then the issue of one person holding two taxpayer funded positions arises. Usually during campaign season. Famously, former DPW Commissioner Robert Mirch pulled off a hat trick and actually had three taxpayer-funded salaries. The brilliant part about Mirch was that he also had small government, anti-tax Republicans defend this practice on his behalf as he laughed all the way to the bank. In 2011 so-called 'double-dipping' became an issue when then mayoral candidate Lou Rosamilia hesitated when asked if he would collect a mayoral salary as well as a pension from Hudson Valley Community College.

His opponent, Carmella Mantello, did not hesitate staking out a position. In a Troy Record article (October 31, 2011) Mantello made her position clear:

While Democrat mayoral candidate Lou Rosamilia says he will stop teaching at Hudson Valley Community College and forego his publicly funded salary if elected, Republican challenger Carmella Mantello announced no employee in her administration will be able to draw more than one taxpayer-funded paycheck.

Rosamilia applied for an unpaid leave of absence from the local community college in the first few weeks of the fall semester and the request was granted at the college's board of trustees meeting on Oct. 25.

Then, according to a letter to Rosamilia from the college, he would need to notify the school by April 1, 2012 if he plans to return to active employment at the end of that semester.

The announcement of this plan of action comes on the same day that Mantello released a statement that, if she is elected, she would not permit any appointed city employees to receive more than one taxpayer-funded paycheck, including government funded pensions.

Mantello's reasoning was sound:

In these challenging economic times, with so many families struggling to make ends meet, it is only right that public servants draw only one taxpayer funded paycheck," she said, noting that Rep. Chris Gibson, R-Kinderhook, suspended his U.S. Army pension while he is serving in Congress.
"I call on my opponent to join with me and pledge to the people of Troy that double dipping will not be tolerated in City Hall."

Question: Does this still apply? Has Mantello evolved on this issue? Does it apply to those hired by the City Council?

If you can name the double-dipper (under Mantello's definition), win a years subscription to the Troy Polloi.

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55 comments:

Anonymous said...

I think you are referring to former Troy Polloi and Tiger Beat cover boy Jason Scofield.

Anonymous said...

Hypocrites.

Anonymous said...

Still no 5 point plan to fight crime? Where's the violent crime committee that was promised?

Anonymous said...

Mark McGrath collects a sweet state pension. Does that count?

Anonymous said...

Schofield and marge

Anonymous said...

Ding ding! We have a winner. Question is... does fat cat Jason have two taxpayer jobs or three?
Carmella= Hypocrite. Also not too bright.

Anonymous said...

Five comments so far and none about Bill Dunne. Harry's humps must be sleeping in today.

Anonymous said...

Mantello worked in the Legislature during her first stint on the Council. She has no shame.

Anonymous said...

but you couldn't wait to mention Harry, get a life!

Anonymous said...

Roy Smalling from Niverville

Anonymous said...

How is Schofield double-dipping? There is no stipend for TCSD School Board. Does he have a county job too?

Anonymous said...

Oh yes, he sure does.

Anonymous said...

3 jobs

Anonymous said...

Is acholfields books county funded too?

Anonymous said...

"Double dipping" seems to have a negative tone.
If someone spends 20 + years and vests a legitimate pension, then why shouldn't he/she collect the pension and still be able to work at something else? No show jobs are something else and are not being promoted.

Anonymous said...

Being on the school board is an elected and not a paid position.

Anonymous said...

Doesn't Jason work for the county as well? School Board doesn't count. No pay.

Anonymous said...

Thanks Carmella, but the point is that you trashed Lou for double dipping and got on your high horse claiming you'd never permit it in your administration, and then you turned around and hired the mini-Crist GOP hack Scofield knowing full well he's employed by the county. I guess the rules don't apply to you or your special buddies, right? What a hypocrite.

Anonymous said...

I hope someone is keeping score on all her fails. This is just the end of her first month and the total to date is bigger than Harry's waistline.

Wish someone would explain to me what Schofield's appeal is ...no wait I'd rather not know.

Anonymous said...

Listen to you all. Like you thought of this. Making it your own argument. Now that's funny. Oh also I'm a Harry guy and like other Harry guys we work for a living so we can't post all day long.

Anonymous said...

Harry works?

Anonymous said...

I'm smart. I can do things - Fredo Tutunjian

Anonymous said...

Plus, he's the designated choice to play "Corky" in the reboot of "Life Goes On".
....Wolf T. Flywheel

Anonymous said...

Flywheel, no one plays "Corky" like Peter Ryan, no one.

Anonymous said...

Green is a good color for you.

Anonymous said...

Same as Adams appeal slick.

Anonymous said...

The rules never applied to them 2:55. And when they get called out for such blatant hypocrisy, their immediate response is to attack Cox, Cooper, Amy O, Kevin McGrath or Mayor Lou over some entirely unrelated and unfounded allegations ! So Carmzilla is a hypocrite, not really big news. Carmzilla is the very definition of a grimy, power hungry politician who has no shame whatsoever

Anonymous said...

Fredo Tutunjian is priceless!

Anonymous said...

Yet there you are, posting during the work day.

Anonymous said...

Congratulations, Polloi! The "Corky" comment is a new low!

C'mon, fellas. Surely somebody can come up with an insult more offensive, right? Because that's what it's all about, grown men anonymously firing sixth grade insults at the perceived "enemy" while the "Troy" in Troy Polloi is one or two unforeseen financial expenditures away from becoming Detroit on the Hudson.

God help us.

Anonymous said...

...and praise Jeebus!
....Atrippa Kellum

Anonymous said...

How low can you be personally when you think you need to use Amy,Cox,Cooper,Lou and that rat bastard McRat to make a point. Sounds to me like Tom Wade did something to this person.

Drew Cooper said...

This whole double dipping issue is silly! If you worked long enough and are entitled to a pension, you take it!!!! Why wouldn't you? This is people just looking for a reason to botch and moan!

Anonymous said...

It's clear there are 5 or 6!commentors here. Going back to McCashen.

Anonymous said...

is it really any different then you bringing up harry every chance you get even when its unrelated to the topic?

Phana24JG said...

I agree the double-dipping issue can be misleading. There are a number of highly-qualified people who can certainly serve in govt positions. The issue here is consistency. If I read Demo's post correctly, Carmella really did not make it clear whether she was talking about the city in general or simply the Mayor's office. I think 9.42 nailed it when he pointed out this is hardly a major issue given our current status.

Anonymous said...

He works for the County

Anonymous said...

Who's Harry?

Anonymous said...

They're at least 12th grade insults. That's what she said anyway.

Anonymous said...

Yea right. You read this obsessively every day and it drives you nuts.

Anonymous said...

Fuck the double dipping. Peter Fuckin Ryan is being paid $95,000.00 at the state. I just heard it on the radio. That man failed at his job was partially responsible for Lou running to retirement left the city of Troy in a mess and he gets a golden parachute. That silly bastard should be parking cars or feeding the porpoises at Frear Park but no. Tom Wade gets him a $95,000.00 a year job at the state. Unbelievable utterly ridiculous.

Anonymous said...

Own my own tax paying business slick, that employs 13 peeps -- 12 more than solar boy

Anonymous said...

Harry and his humps are all down at the Poughkeepsie Galeria Mall getting George the animal Steele, Jimmy Superfly Snuka and Chief Peter Muavias autographs

Anonymous said...

So you understand how people can post comments and still work, dipshit. What was your point again?

Anonymous said...

And all tut got was a part timer-- what's that all about?

Anonymous said...

As is Friedo McRat!!! U dont spells vary good

Anonymous said...

I'm not being paid by the taxpayer. Dipshit? Why resort to name calling?

Anonymous said...

I think the question that needs to be asked here, is will Pete still play at the Augusta like atmosphere on the Frear Park greens? At least the pencil crisis will be averted at the DOT.#2's for everyone.

Anonymous said...

What good does bringing up Amy, Cox, Cooper, Lou or Kevin do? Last I checked none of them are in office or running for office, none of them have teet jobs and none of them have made anywhere near the enemies Harry and company have in the city.

Anonymous said...

Hey, I hit a new low, excellent! 6th grade level insult? Cool, now I can run with the horses...and their ilk Ain't I a stinker?...Flywheel

Anonymous said...

9:23, you seem.to bring up Harry at least two times a day. Nothing like seeing your name in print huh? You don't even care that you get destroyed by everyone or that nobody can stand you. As long as you see your name. When will you learn to just go away. You get your lunch money taking from.You every day you silly little troll

Anonymous said...

One less thing that you'll ever have to worry about. Life is good. And I botch vary well thank you.

Anonymous said...

the only person bringing up Harry is Cooper, he cant make it through the day.

Anonymous said...

That was improper...it's spelled "Maivia"
......Lemuel Phibes

Anonymous said...

Yeah, Cooper is the only person who brings up Queen Tut! Talk about delusional!